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Ibrahim Al Copti
21-07-2008, 10:35 AM
Something the media won't touch!

Military Losses, 1980 thru 2007. Whatever your politics, however you
lean, and however you feel about the current administration, this report
should open some eyes. Military losses, 1980 through 2007.

As tragic as the loss of any member of the US Armed Forces is, consider
the following statistics: The annual fatalities of military members
while actively serving in the armed forces from 1980 through 2006 - by
any cause:

1980 ...........2,392 ( Carter Year )
1981 .......... 2,380 ( Reagan Year)
1984 .......... 1,999 ( Reagan Year)
1988 .......... 1,819 ( Reagan Year)
1989 .......... 1,636 ( George H W Year )
1990 .......... 1,508 ( George H W Year )
1991 .......... 1,787 ( George H W Year )
1992 .......... 1,293 ( George H W Year )
1993 .......... 1,213 ( Clinton Year)
1994 .......... 1,075 ( Clinton Year)
1995 .......... 2,465 ( Clinton Year)
1996 .......... 2,318 ( Clinton Year)
1997 .......... 817 ( Clinton Year)
1998 .......... 2,252 ( Clinton Year)
1999 .......... 1,984 ( Clinton Year)
2000 ...........1,983 ( Clinton Year)
2001 ............ 890 ( George W Year )
2002 .......... 1,007 ( George W Year )
2003 .......... 1,410 ( George W Year )
2004 .......... 1,887 ( George W Year )
2005 ............ 919 ( George W Year )
2006............. 920 ( George W Year )
2007............. 899 ( George W Year )

Clinton years (1993-2000): 14,107 deaths
George W years (2001-2007): 7,932 deaths

If you are surprised when you look at these figures, so was I. These
figures mean that the loss from the two latest conflicts in the Middle
East Are LESS than the loss of military personnel during Bill Clinton's
presidency when America wasn't even involved in a war! (Unless you
include Bosnia or the disgrace of Mogadishu, Somalia when Clinton failed
to respond to terrorists; Remember 'Blackhawk Down'?)

And, I was even more shocked! when I read that in 1980, during the reign
of President (Nobel Peace Prize winner) Jimmy Carter , there were 2,392
US military fatalities! From what? How?

I think that these figures indicate that many members of our Media and
our Politicians will pick and choose the information on which they
report. Of course we all know that they present only those 'facts' which
support their agenda-driven reporting. But why do so many of them march
in lock-step to twist the truth? Where do so many of them get their
agenda? Obviously there is one shared agenda. Could it be from the most
powerful Democrat family of the decade?

Do you want further proof? Consider the latest census of Americans. It
shows the following FACTS about the distribution of American citizens,
by race:

European descent ..........................69.12%
Hispanic...................................12.5%
Black .....................................12.3%
Asian...................................... 3.7% Native
American................................... 1.0%
Other...................................... 2.6%

Many of the media lead us to feel the military death ratio is off
balanced compared to the distribution by race in America. Here are the
fatalities by RACE over the past three years in Iraqi Freedom. Do the
comparison yourself.


European descent (white) ...........74.31%
Hispanic............................10.74%
Black .............................. 9.67%
Asian............................... 1.81%
Native American..................... 1.09%
Other............................... 0.33%

I was surprised again. Our mainstream media continues to spin these
figures
(for political gain). Nothing more. It's all about politics.

I hope that between now and November, intelligent Americans can decipher
the facts from the spin, the spinners from the leaders, those who seek
even more power from those that seek justice, and the dividers from the
uniters.

Over the next months let's be good listeners and see and hear who tries
to divide our nation; and who wants to unite our nation; who wants to
control how our money is spent and who wants our money spent the way we
would spend it. Who seeks power and who seeks justice? Who spins the
facts and who is genuine.

(These statistics are published by Congressional Research Service, and



'History does not entrust the care of freedom to the weak or timid.' -
Dwight D. Eisenhower

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Faith-Hope_Love
26-07-2008, 11:56 PM
Dear Ibrahim Al Copti

The content of (several versions of) your post has circulated through chat forums and emails and has been throughly debunked as a hoax.

You can see a summary of the debunking at http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_military_deaths.htm
.

For accurate statistics, which refute the theses that 1. There were more military (Active Duty) active duty deaths during the Clinton years than the Bush-43 years and 2. That the media has tried to obscure these figures, I refer you to the actual Congressional Research Service Report, reffered to in your post, hosted at a site run by the United States Air Force, at http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/crs/rl32492.pdf. Table 4 on page 10 lists the number of deaths of AD servicemen, table 5 on page 11 further segregates the data by cause of death, including hostile action, homicide, accidents and self inflicted injury.

I also refer you to the original source of Table 5's data hosted on a website run by the Office of the Secretary of Defense at http://siadapp.dmdc.osd.mil/personnel/CASUALTY/Death_Rates1.pdf


Hope that helps clear up the confusion mate, and apologies for the bad formatting of this post, I'm new to this forum.

Ibrahim Al Copti
27-07-2008, 01:42 AM
Dear Faith
As I said: I got this through the email
But, thanks for clearing the issue
I''ll go through these files to get the facts right

Thanks again my friend