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Narrow mind and character assassination!? Allow me to put these words in a more appropriate context.
His Holiness has blessed the country where I live with a visit in the not so distant past and met the immigration minister and other officials who used the golden opportunity to find out more about what is going on in Egypt from the mouth of such a key figure and such a distinguished leader of a minority group, as they have a pile of refugee applications to deal with and they felt the testimony of the Pope of Alexandria would be shed a lot of light on how to deal with these. The Pope gave them the usual speech that we are all brothers in Egypt and that the disturbance is nothing but minor and separated incidents while the Copts in general are living happily and suffering no prosecution or discrimination. It is needless to say what the horrific outcome of this was on the applications of many Christians and Muslims who converted to Christianity and were hoping to be given asylum and refuge. Nearly all of their applications were refused and were they promptly sent back to Egypt!
Do I really need to comment on this?
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No, you do not need to comment, but to clarify and justify and do what a respected person would do before he throws stones and cannot back up the data.
For alleged meetings, alleged quotes and alleged outcomes of alleged meetings or quotes and positions have to be proven, or they are useless.
when it comes to a discussion.
I do not think that one should clarify that you are not a reliable source, taking into account your hostility against the Pope.
When you are banished for faith, when you are a great teacher, when you have gained the respect of millions of your people, like Pope Shenouda's history testifies, then you have credibility.
Courage does not have to be associated with being stupid.
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I am not going to launch a personal attack on you like you have been launching on others, if you can’t handle the facts then maybe you should close your eyes and ears like many already have. Most importantly…do not dare accuse and label other of being Heretics just because you disagree with them, this is one of the primary reasons that the situation of the Copts has reached the terrible state that it is in today
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This one is loaded....
1- Don't you just like it when somebody says he won't use verbal abuse, yet all his words are abuse and unsubstantiated attacks....
2- I understand that you are sensitive concerning the label heretic, and frankly, I do not give a rat's leg for how you feel..... For heresy is heresy and has to be exposed if we are talking about Faith......
..... should it be political discussion, then we will refrain from Faith issues....but is this forum political or faith based...? For if it is political, why the "dialogue" section ? If political, why attack the Pope ? It is an identity problem for the forum that needs to be defined first....
3- You are quite correct about divisions and how they developed and shaped the history of Egypt, but I am not sure how you meant it. But there is nothing to be ashamed about on our part .....
4- My only comment on your first post was regarding the Nativity celebration.....