الموضوع: The Terror in the Bible
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Dear "no way"

إقتباس:
Dear hima
Please try to keep the distance

my name is Ibrahim


إقتباس:
you talking about terror in Quran all the time

so what you call those verses in bible ?
Did u actually read my previous reply
quoting
إقتباس:
1) to prove that these old testament wars were universally and timelessly oriented
i.e. Ordered by YHWA to fight all non-Jews for all times

2) to prove that they are meant to spread the Israelis belief and faith by sword, and force other nations to convert to Judaism

3) to prove that are morally unjustifiable

4) to explain out the similar scenario in Muslim jihad which is oriented towards all non-believers globally to submit them to the rule of Islam
And I add one more critical point you raised

u said

إقتباس:
there is differnt between old testament and new testament??????
yes there is a huge difference

The old testament for us as Christians is a promise not fulfilled. People were dealing with God as a stranger not a savior
it is a testament of laws without a savior

that is a huge difference

the prophets of the old testament predicted and told of that difference

that the Lord is hidden and veiled in OT

إقتباس:
Isa 59:2 but your iniquities have made a separation between you and your God, and your sins have hidden his face from you so that he does not hear.
But, He is not going to stay the same way for the New testament
إقتباس:
Eze 39:28 Then they shall know that I am the LORD their God, because I sent them into exile among the nations and then assembled them into their own land. I will leave none of them remaining among the nations anymore.
Eze 39:29 And I will not hide my face anymore from them, when I pour out my Spirit upon the house of Israel, declares the Lord GOD."
إقتباس:
Isa 45:15 Verily thou art a God that hidest thyself, O God of Israel, the Saviour.
so i hope u can see the difference
People without salvation or actual relation with God ...
only the law

Muhammad actually got it backwards
he started peaceful, because of his Christian background and ended violent to a larger scale than the OT, but even without the moral background of the OT.

I am still waiting for a thoughtful response from you concerning these points

God bless

by the way
please do not lie and tell that

إقتباس:
by the way my friend i wrote my reply but the asmin remove it
in this thread there is no deleted posts so far

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