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قديم 29-07-2006
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No Mina, are you really that braindead.

I proved to you that the Quran tells us to not follow your books because they have now become corrupted.

Instead, he says that he has preserved the messages of your books, the original messages that hadn't become corrupt, within the Quran.

The original Injil, the original Zaboor, the original Tawraat, is what he tells us there is no distinction amongst them and the Quran.
That is very clear from those verses that you posted.
Those books however no longer exist.


Once again, since you cant seem to grasp such a simple concept, then it bares repeating:


1) Those whom followed the injil of prophet Isa (Gospel of Jesus) and the tawrot of prophet Musa (Moses Torah) are the ones whom the Quran refers to as People of the Book (ahlil kittab).
2) As I posted before, the Quran reminds us that your books have been distorted, and therefore you are NOT the People of the Book anymore.

Remember this post:

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[005:014] From those, too, who call themselves Christians, We did take a covenant, but they forgot a good part of the message that was sent them: so we estranged them, with enmity and hatred between the one and the other, tothe day of judgment. And soon will Allah show them what it is they havedone.



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[002:113] The Jews say: "The Christians have naught (to stand) upon; and the Christians say: "The Jews have naught (To stand) upon." Yet they (Profess to) study the (same) Book. Such are the utterances of those who possess no knowledge; but God will judge between them in their quarrel on the Day of Judgment.




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[002:120] Never will the Jews or the Christians be satisfied with thee unless thou follow their form of religion. Say: "The Guidance of God,-that is the (only) Guidance." Wert thou to follow their desires after the knowledge which hath reached thee, then wouldst thou find neither Protector nor helper against God.




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[002:135] They say: "Become Jews or Christians if ye would be guided (To salvation)." Say thou: "Nay! (I would rather) the Religion of Abraham the True, and he joined not gods with God."





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[002:140] Or do ye say that Abraham, Isma'il Isaac, Jacob and the Tribes were Jews or Christians? Say: Do ye know better than God? Ah! who is more unjust than those who conceal the testimony they have from God? but God is not unmindful of what ye do!

[003:067] Abraham was not a Jew nor yet a Christian; but he was true in Faith, and bowed his will to God's (Which is Islam), and he joined not gods with God.



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[009:030] The Jews call 'Uzair a son of God, and the Christians call Christ the son of God. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. God's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth!




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[023:071] If the Truth had been in accord with their desires, truly the heavens and the earth, and all beings therein would have been in confusion and corruption! Nay, We have sent them their admonition, but they turn away from their admonition.


Also, if the ******ures were pure and not corrupt then this verse wouldnt have been sent:


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[2:111] Some have said, "No one will enter Paradise except Jews or CHRISTIANS!" Such is their wishful thinking. Say, "Show us your proof, if you are right."




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[003:065] Ye People of the Book! Why dispute ye about Abraham, when the Law and the Gospel Were not revealed Till after him? Have ye no understanding?


The ahlil kittab (people of the book) that the Quran refers to, which is probably the verses you want to quote, refers to the people whom followed the Tawraat of Musa (pbuh), the Injil of Eisa (pbuh), and the Zaboor of Daoud (pbuh), NOT the Torah that we have today or the Bible that we have today, because these are man-made corrupted books.


You are not part of the ahlil kittab.
Your kittabs are lost, and you are not the same people anymore.
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