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قديم 18-01-2004
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Allah or Jesus?

[l]Allah or Jesus?
by Rick Mathes

Last month I attended my annual training session that's required for
maintaining my state prison security clearance. During the training session
there was a presentation by three speakers representing the Roman Catholic,
Protestant and Muslim faiths who explained their belief systems.

I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam had to say.

The Imam gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam, complete with a
video. After the presentations, time was provided for questions and answers.


When it was my turn, I directed my question to the Imam and asked: "Please,
correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that most Imams and clerics of
Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels of the
world. And, that by killing an infidel, which is a command to all Muslims,
they are assured of a place in heaven. If that's the case, can you give me
the definition of an infidel?"

There was no disagreement with my statements and without hesitation he
replied, "Non-believers!"

I responded, "So, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers of
Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of your faith so they
can go to Heaven. Is that correct?"

The expression on his face changed from one of authority and command to that
of a little boy who had just gotten caught with his hand in the cookie jar.
He sheepishly replied, "Yes."

I then stated, "Well, sir, I have a real problem trying to imagine Pope John
Paul commanding all Catholics to kill those of your faith or Pat Robertson
or Dr. Stanley ordering Protestants to do the same in order to go to
Heaven!"

The Imam was speechless.

I continued, "I also have problem with being your friend when you and your
brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me. Let me ask you a
question. Would you rather have your Allah who tells you to kill me in order
to go to Heaven or my Jesus who tells me to love you because I am going to
Heaven and He wants you to be with me?"

You could have heard a pin drop as the Imam hung his head in shame.

Chuck Colson once told me something that has sustained me these 20 years of
prison ministry.

He said to me, "Rick, remember that the truth will prevail." And it will![/l]

آخر تعديل بواسطة Mico ، 08-02-2004 الساعة 07:44 PM
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قديم 28-03-2006
thenight_templer thenight_templer غير متصل
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i wonder if this how many persons asked this imam about the same question , cause ive heard alot this story about 1000s times from a difrrent people , and i wonder if they were in the same place asking the same question and they got the same answer from such imam you r talking about , and the iama , oh my he was helpless couldnt answer your question , with all my respect , in case ur story is an perspnal matter happend for you before ( defently i doubt )
but iam gonna tell if suc imam couldnt answer such question then you or me or any one should not call him imam . ( i doubt your story )
seems you r lookig for sepcial kind of anti muslims PROPAGANDA
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the right question should be addressed:

Allah or Mohamed?

Muslims who don't cliam Mohamed as a God yet they treat him practically more than a God

He is the untouchble & if someone attack his deeds then he should be killed, while they themselves are allowed to attack Jesus & his followers day & night based on one assumption that "Jesus is not God"

They say we believe in Jesus yet they hate his followers like anything

there is no such a question like "Jesus or God" because we are comparing one Identity

ONE GOD=ONE JESUS=ONE HOLY SPIRIT

Christians never made Jesus a GOD because they are not allowed to do that, but they just identified who is "GOD"
and this identity of God is still unknown to muslims as well as many others but it doesn't mean that you don't knopw maheyet ALLAH so you go after the ones who know accusing them by "ELKOFR"
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قديم 19-08-2006
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this story is not afact , u may imagine that situation and this imam is not true imam and ur question is not difficlt to make his face changed plz dont be aliar that is bad , our islam is religion of peace u dont understand it ,it is ur problem not ours
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dont be aliar that is bad
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you r real moslem


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