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it doest matter which words of the bible you say are real facts and which words are just metaphoric so things wont be mixed up inside out , because this is the way you like, because in fact u explain the bible they way you like and to get your final conclusions with forgiveness and salvation to make yourselves feel free from any dirt or any duties u have
why do u only understand the word (sheep or the lamb of god , and alot other expressions ) in the bible as metaphoric ( figurative and medatores ) and alot of other words and things ( like father and son and other) are not just the same metaphorical expressions but you change them into real facts ???
and why can't those words be metaphoric or metaphors also ????
tell and when and how did Jesus tell u those words (*father and *son - *me and father are one **Ur saviour,,,,,,,,,) are real facts and not just metaphorical sayings?????
or how the holy spirit told u its real facts and not metaphoric ????
in case - how would you recognise the holy spirit ? ( read the false prophets )
give me any evidence from your bible or whenever to show me such words ( father and son and me and father in one blablabla )are real facts and not metaphorical expressions ?
but do not prove a metaphoric verses with other metaphorical verses ,,, then u will know if u r fooling yourself or not
i think if you r sheep and Jesus is the lamb of god and alot of other expressions are just alot of metaphoric expressions then why are not (son and father and saviour and i and the father are one blablabla ) why are they not just metaphorical also , and not real facts .. but why did u have to change them into facts ? this is the question , ( read the easy forgiveness ) , it could be , i will not tell you i am sure about it , and maybe you can ask me if i have any evidence to consider such expressions as a metaphorical expressions or not , gladly i will say yes i do have them , too many of them, but you r to blind to read or think , you don't even have the chance to question the bible or question your self .but , before i am going on tell you my evidence i would like to remind you with this verse from your bible ....
Joh 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, be judge righteous judgement.
so i think after reading this verse you should try to understand and open your eyes and your mind because you will not make the right judgement without having any intention to understand ,and the bible says read and try to understand because its not just the external meanings and not also to judge according to the appearance
well . according to the bible verses it can be all just metaphorical expressions and let us see some evidences to to know it is ,,,
1-) check the bible dictionary (Greek -English) ,
father --G3962---πατήρ--patēr--pat-ayr'
Apparently a primary word; a "father" (literally or figuratively, near or more remote)- father, parent.
son ----H1121---בּן --- bên ----bane
From H1129; a son (as a builder of the family name), in the widest sense (of literal and figurative relationship, including grandson, subject, nation, quality or condition, etc.,
2) all the bible verses which u consider it as abnormal nature for god who u make him into Jesus , no one can accept it but only in fiction movies or midnight stories , so it just metaphorical expressions
3) all the bible verses which stated Jesus as human and prophet and son of man are evidences , or it gonna be just contradictions ,
4) all the bible verses which stated Jesus he was praying and talking to god , cause god would not pray and talk to himself ,, it cant be
5) the bible verses which stated Jesus sitting (sometimes standing ) on the right hand of god , cause no one will be sitting on his right hand , it cant be
6) all the bible verses which stated Jesus calling the people to pray for god not to himself
7) Jesus never said iam the god and worship me , in clear verse and not metaphorical
8) all the verses which says ( god AND Jesus ) there's not explanation for this (AND) between god and Jesus if they are the same one
9) saviour in the bible just one of metaphoric expressions , simply because the one who has the power to save you would be able to save himself from the start , but he couldn't according to Ur beliefs
10) Jesus was ing scream out loud afraid to death - that's mean it was not his choice to sacrifice himself for u , and salvation to save you just metaphorical __expression
11 ) the contradiction when u say he was full man and full god , then later u say he was a man , later he was a god , i think u mean he was part time god !!!
12) the crucifixion of god to forgive Adam and to you making god into sadism--- crucifixion =torture god or his son = your forgiveness
13) crucifixion making god with limited power that he couldn't save you without being murdered through some creation he made ---psychotic book
14 ) if god had the power to create Adam and Jesus and all those creatures----
why would god let his creation excruciating him to get martyrdom ( him or his son) to forgive them later on while he can forgive us with just a word ?? no way
15) god with all his power will lay down his life just to show you how much he loves you by hanging on the cross bleeding and helpless when we can see it in different millions ways how much he loves us everyday ????? no way
16 ) even the bible is asking ------------
Rom 8:34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us. ????????
17) there's no one single verse which it says god sent Jesus to be sacrificed .
(not a metaphorical verse )
18) on the legalisation side --------if god gave the Jews who killed Jesus the life , power , the strength , the material (the cross) to kill his son or himself that's means so god helped those people to murder his son or maybe he commit suicide!!! no way ( the bible is just a story of fancy crime )
19) as example--when u call any older man (father ) or u call any little boy (son ) does it mean its real fatherhood ? or its figuratively and rhetorically ?
20 )as example--- when u tell Ur Friends (me and my lover are one ) does it means u r two humans or you r as close as one e ???
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