مستقبل الاقباط هذا العام و في السنوات القليلة القادمة

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المشاركة الأصلية بواسطة الخواجه

الاخ شريف - اهلا بيك و بمداخلتك الموضوعيه و شكرا لتعضيدك و متابعتك للنقاش و الحوار و التمتع بنفس الروح
المطلوبه من جميع الاقباط في المساهمه لوصول الي الحقوق المسلوبه و المشروعه في داخل بلدنا و اعتقد ان قطار الحقوق و العمل القبطي
تحرك من مكانه و ان كان بطيئا و يتعثر احيانا و لكن لن يتوقف ان شاء الرب لان الدي يستحق
الحقوق هو من يسعي اليها و يطالب بها
لان الحقوق تنتزع و لا تهب و لا يضيع حق ورائه مطالب

شكرا يا اخ شريف و ارجوا ان تساهم بشكل فعال معنا في المنتدي لان عدد مداخلاتك لا يتفق مع مدة اشتراكك في المنتدي
فلا تبخل علينا وجودك و مساهمتك - و الرب يبارك حياتك

و طبعا شكرا للاخ حنا لفتحه الموضوع

الخواجه

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My Dear

الخواجه

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[hanna3 + الخواجه Dear

Thank you very much both of you for your nice complements .

Yes my dear brothers I've been quite for some time reading most of topics and subjects. I've been doing this every day for the last 12 months, I believe there are allot of people are doing the same. This site is the only window we have for new hope and better future for our kids.

During this period I enjoyed reading your comments and offcourse the rest of the brilliant members. I found too many masters, so I set down to learn the art of human right fight. I will try to be more visible.

Back to our topic, I strongly believe people outside Egypt are no longer supporting the church leaders we need to be more organised. In Egypt, ....there is a trend to change, what was working 30-50 years ago no longer is suitable now. somebody correct me if I'm wrong.... We will see more and more people ready to step out and try something deferent, for 2 reasons.

First we are not going any where at all with Church leading the people.

Second - People (indevidual) will try to ease the government pressure on the Church, we all love our Fathers and Bishops, some COPTS inside & offcourse outside Egypt want to take this pressure on themself to safe the Church any embarrassment or direct clash with the government. It is out of love more than enything. Either way or reason we will see more indiduals COPTS and organisations walking away for the church line

We can see now some good individual COPTIC human right actives, they are trying their own fight but they are small minority and unorganised, they will need support from outside and form good & free Muslims inside Egypt if they are still exists...... I think it was very smart thing from the US COPTIC in the 2nd COPTIC conference to invite Muslims from Egypt who support our cause and have the same view of freedom of realign in Egypt.

Sheref

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الاخ شريف شكرا للرد من كل الردود اري اننا لم نختلف للان في الهدف والان تعالوا معا نفكر بصوت عالي

ماذا نفعل معا وما دور كل منا لمساعدة اهلنا داخل وخارج مصر ؟

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المشاركة الأصلية بواسطة hanna3

الاخ شريف شكرا للرد من كل الردود اري اننا لم نختلف للان في الهدف والان تعالوا معا نفكر بصوت عالي

ماذا نفعل معا وما دور كل منا لمساعدة اهلنا داخل وخارج مصر ؟

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My Dear brother hanna3

You are on my friend, God bless you, back to your question
ماذا نفعل معا وما دور كل منا لمساعدة اهلنا داخل وخارج مصر ؟....
We all understand it is a long term straggle, we need to be ready for the long fight.

We have waited 1400 years we can put another 2-5 years from good hard organized work.

US COPTIS & Michael Moonier + the rest of the COPTIC organisations around the world are doing a very good work with little resources they have, God help them especially in USA. We also need to open another front in the United Nations

As per my earlier comment in point (4

We need to view the COPTIC case as a human right case. Under the United Nations charter which Egypt is a signatory to it. We are asking for freedom of religions. We need to raise this in every international event we can.

In Egypt, we need to support and help people like

ممدوح نخلة

, there are many lowers like him taking a
positive and legal venue but they need help and support.

Outside Egypt we need some legal advisories, a group of experts in the international Laws, so we communicate strongly and professionally with the United Nations. Do we have such a group or volunteers to take the lead in this area….Can anyone advise.
We all agree to focuse on the Resolutions of the Second International Coptic Conference, it is our aim and targets. How to get these resolutions implemented this is everyone responsibility hard long road we already started the 1st mile.
Sheref

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You are right Sheref

But this will happen if we all be one hand one opinion one team
If we all work together as a Coptic
We will do a lot
God bless all to lead our Christianity to the top
God Willing .

[hanna3]

احبائي اشكركم للرد وهنا نصل لاول نقطة وهي الدعم بكل امانة يجب عليبنا
ان نتبرع اكثير للمنظمات القبطية
لكل وجهه نظرة ووجهة نظري الشخصية ان التبرع للكنيسة يجب ان يكون محدود وللمنظمات القبطية بلا حدود لانها اقدر علي الحركة بحرية لا تتاح للكنيسة
ثم ان اي كنيسة عرضة للحرق بل و لتتحول الي مسجد كمان ما المانع ؟ ولا داعلي للخوض في كم كنيسة تحولت الي مسجد ؟ كثير جدا
اي ان التبرع والدعم يجب ان يذهب الي من يدافع عن قضايانا وهي نقطة منطقية اولي ممتازة جدا
واشكر الرب ان ارانا اين نسير
ولنزيد تبرعاتنا الي منظمتنا الغالية هذا العام 100 دولا ر زيادة وربنا يزيدكم
هذة اول نقطة وبدايتها مسك باذن يسوع
وما هي النقطة الثانية منتظر ردكم لانكن شباب ذكي بتفكروا احسن مني الف مرة وعارفين الدنيا اللي بتتغير وصلوا وفكروا