يامسلمين النمل لايتكلم ....

[knowjesus_knowlove]

مايضحكنى ليس أن النمل يتكلم أو يتواصل أو يتخاطب أو يتفاهم سواء باللغة أو الإشارات أو الذبذبات أو الموجات أو أو أو أو.....
مايضحكنى هو أن يأتى إلينا المسلم المتعلم المثقف مثل الحاج قسام ليعلمنا بديهيات الحياة دون أن يتساءل ماذا سيقول لنا إذا كان كاتب القرآن قد إستبدل النمل بخلايا الأميبا أو دود الأرض أو الفئران مثلا ؟
أليست كل هذه الكائنات لها وسيلتها الخاصة فى الإتصال ؟ فماهو الإعجاز هنا وماذا أفادنا نحن البشر أن يذكر كاتب القرآن هذه الخزعبلات أو لا؟
وهل سيخل بالكلام عدم ذكر هذا الجزء فى مايسمى سورة قرآنية ؟؟
فمن المعروف أن الحيوانات والحشرات تهرع إلا مخابئها عندما تستشعر الخطر دون أن تنتظر إشارة من أى أحد فمثلا إذا مر قطار هادر فهل يمكن إستعمال هذه الآية هكذا

حَتَّى إِذَا أَتَى عَلَى وَادِي النَّمْلِ قَالَتْ نَمْلَةٌ يَا أَيُّهَا النَّمْلُ ادْخُلُوا مَسَاكِنَكُمْ لَا يَحْطِمَنَّكُمْ القطار وَهُو لَا يَشْعُرُ 18

آه صحيح ..
نسيت إن السورة إسمها سورة النمل
إلحق إلحق إلحق ...النملة إتكلمت

[Kassam]

Wether other insects have a communication language or not makes no difference, because people 1400 years didn't have this information, or say they didn't have sufficient scientific tools ( both mentally and physically ) to demonstrate such a fact, language skills of insects hasn't been discovered but lately in our modern time, but 1400 years ago I they had no information about language of ants, consequently, you are wrong, communication language of insects is not an axiom, people, please check your scientific information before you randomly post it in these forums, otherwise you'll turn it into a useless castle of blind anti - islamic propaganda, so a man 1400 years comes up with such a fact that has not been known in his time - let alone it was only discovered hundreds of years later - may be considered a scientitfic miracle. ( from a neutral non biased point of view only of course. )

Undersand that my reply didn't intend to either prove or disprove scientific miracles in the Quran, my reply targeted a specific point in tarekmounir's post where he said that "Ants can't talk" which is - from science's point of view - a huge mistake that destroys the whole idea of his post.

[tarekmounir]

Dear Kassem,

It seems that you just came here to say "NO"..
you are asking "from where I got that ants do not speak",
Ok, for any creature to create a voice, it should have a "tongue and a throat" SCIENCE TOLD US SO,
"A THROAT WHERE VOCAL CORDS ARE SITUATED AND A TONGUE TO MOVE"
Most lower animals and insects do communicate using special serial of movements, secrete certain specific chemicals or communicate by secreting a specific odour.
Your book said ants do speak, sorry to say it's false as ants don't speak...thank you

الاخ الفاضل الذى يتسائل عن معلومة تحدث النمل كما جاءت آية من القرآن بحديث على "لسان نملة" نقول له لم نعرف غير "لسان العصفور" ولايوجد لسان نملة..ياسادة النمل لايملك حنجرة او لسان ..... بعض الحشرات والحيوانات تتواصل اما باداء بعض الحركات او افراز بعض الكيماويات العضوية او بافراز رائحة مميزة

[Kassam]

Now you are just playing with words, the Quranic verse you quoted says nothing about "voices" or "tongues", it just says that the ant "told" the other ants, how did it tell the other ants ? by their own unique human - unfamiliar communication language, how did Sulaiman understand their communication language ? all we can say that God's power is infinite, and he CAN teach Sulaiman or any other human anything he wants.

[tarekmounir]

Do you read what I wrote? or you just want to say no?

حَتَّى إِذَا أَتَوْا عَلَى وَادِي النَّمْلِ قَالَتْ نَمْلَةٌ يَا أَيُّهَا النَّمْلُ ادْخُلُوا مَسَاكِنَكُمْ لَا يَحْطِمَنَّكُمْ سُلَيْمَانُ وَجُنُودُهُ وَهُمْ لَا يَشْعُرُونَ 18
What does it mean? it means that the ant spoke .. It spoke by any means? no ... spoke means by voice.
Anyway, if it makes any special movement or if it communicates by chemicals so, there must be the same species for the perception, as ants communicate through its antenna. I don't think King Soliman was having an antenna

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[Kassam]

Actually the problem isn't me me neglecting your posts, it's you trying to twist the meanings of the verse to meet your opinion, as I said in my previous reply, there is no voice mentioned in the verse, how do you expect people 1400 years ago to understand "communication through antennas" ? God is supposed to describe this incident with a simple way that people at that age can understand ( people at that time didn't know antennas as you know) and at the same time it doesn't contradict with the fact that ants' communication ways are different from us ( as there were no voices mentioned in the verse )

How did you expect god to describe this incident, tarek ? to say that ants used some chemicals accompanied by their antennas to warn each other from Sulaiman's army ?

And regarding the issue of Prophet Sulaiman lacking antennas, as I said, God's power is infinite, he provided Sulaiman by the abilities to understand her, how ? that's God's power, and we have to accept it, your religion too have many assumptions that aren't based on logic, it's based rather on faith in God's power and the limited ability of humans to understand his ways.

[tarekmounir]

Dear Kassam,
Thanks for your reply.